Paper patched 308 marlin

Steel parts in this product may be alloyed with trace amounts of lead and other elements which are known to the state of california to cause reproductive harm and cancer. I had a flyer or two outta 20 rounds but it could have been my shooting. Remington express 308 marlin express ammo 150 grain corelokt soft point r308m1 remington express 308 marlin express ammo 150 grain corelokt soft point ammo for sale online at cheap discount prices with free shipping available on bulk 308 marlin express ammunition only at our online store. Let me say up front im not trying to knock this round. A very general rule of thumb has it that patched dead soft lead can reach 2,000 fps before things go sideways and harder alloys can do 3,000 fps or more. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Pretty much any chamber will shoot paper patched bullets. Paper patched bullets were designed to allow cast lead bullets to be fired at higher velocity than is normal for unpatched lead. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. While you are digesting that little nugget, lets have a look at the picture of three very similar cartridges, lefttoright, the. Yes, the express round was developed by hornady and marlin for use in lever action rifles. I have shot the 577450 martini with paper patched pills some years ago and know of the cartridges d o k speaks of, these where boxer manufactured rolled cases set in formed cups with a steel rim mainly pinned in place by the. I have a solid background in nra high power competition i. Riflescalibers for long range rifle side matches sass.

Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer. Introduction of the new marlin 1895, more than all other factors combined, is responsible for the current popularity of the 4570. Right click on the image of the load data and use save as. The first thing that i did was ship it to brockman brockman custom gunsmithing, 2165 south 1800 east, gooding id 83330 for an action job and to lighten the trigger pull to 3pounds. With this paper cutter it only takes about ten minutes to cut 100 patches. You can easily shoot all of these bullets to 1500 fps without problem. Patched these a slightly different way than i usually do, and added a. Found a boolit combo to work and give surprising results. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load.

Huge variety of bolt action, ar and service rifle calibers available. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles. Most of the pistol bullets and select rifle bullets are. Is marlins design incompatible with common rifle cartridges like. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. The next winter marlin and hornady took almost that exact step by creating the. Ive used 1885s, sharps, flintlock with round ball, and the ballard which has killed more than any of them. The raised areas of the rifling are called lands, which make contact with the projectile for small arms usage, called a bullet, imparting spin around an axis corresponding to the orientation of the weapon. I found some really thin paper is the paper that shirts come wrapped in, very similar or perhaps even is tissue paper.

I think i recall him writing that paper patched cartridges do not feed efficiently. The bullets im actually interested in paperpatching would be for the. They succeeded handily with 308 marlin express308 marlin express ammo, when coupled with hornadys new leverevolution polymertipped rounds which are expressly designed for tubefed lever actions, comes really close to duplicating the. We go over a few more basics in our paper patching discussion. This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. Both were developed to provide near 308 winchester ballistics in a lever action rifle using rimmed brass.

In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a. Paper patched projectiles will work with smokeless powder loads as well if paul matthews experiments are correct. There is a lot of good paper patchers in marlin owners, ive read some of their knowledge and will try to get it. Corbin gcm1 gas check maker kits are available in h type hydropress or csp2 megamite press and s type csp1 spress. I used sticky printer labels to patch the bullets up to approximately. Krieger barrels manufactures custom, singlepoint cutrifled barrels for bolt action, ar15, ar10, m1 garand, m14, m1903 along with a variety of services. The kits produce high quality copper gas checks using.

Some a bit better than others, but most factory chambered rifles can shoot paper patches quite well. The cartridge uses a slightly shorter, semirimmed case similar to that of the. The express comes up short on velocity by 110 fps and energy by about 200 fpe. Midwayusa carries a full line of 308 marlin express from all the major brands. Register log in home forums bullet casting does anyone load. These include aussie outback 308win 165gr gameking 20pkt, australian.

Id be interested in either the lever action or single shot categories. You could do the same thing with 4350 or something slower too. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. It is a rimmed cartridge that almost matches ballistics of the. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. Case capacity is similar with these three, but the 52,000. The paper i use is 11 tall and takes about 1 minute to cut into 11 1 strips. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques.

As introduced in hornadys leverevolution line of cartridges, it is the highest. Typical ever actions like the marlin are not as sturdy as the typical bolt action rifle. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. A rifle is a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder, with a barrel that has a helical groove or pattern of grooves rifling cut into the barrel walls. Lube bullets will work in those chambers of course, but there are a few customonly chamber designs that will not shoot, or even chamber, a groove diameter lubed bullet. I am wondering if i can use one of the heavier, highertech 308 diameter bullets like a 180 tsx in a bore that is slightly larger. Marlin 3030s like oversize cast bullets so you are in luck.

Well, somewhere between 20002400 fps a patched round ball of lowish bhn will strip, expect gross leading. Though paper patching bullets is tedious and time consuming, in my experience and reading, there are advantages to using paper patched bullets. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or. Seems everyone is interested in the 30 cal loads for a 3006 or 308, or a 45 cal quigley load. I have tried them in a ruger single action and a marlin. If i cant talk you into trying paper patched bullets for hunting or competition for. The new cartridge was a replacement for the stopgap. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Lay the bullet on a wood board and roll with a new mill bastard file to knurl the surface and the patch will hold.

They carry easy and shoot well and make a big boom that echos across the prairies. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. You can use a much softer alloy at any velocity than would be necessary with a gg cast bullet. Each strip allows two patches at 45 or 50 caliber so one sheet of paper yields 22 precision cut patches. Working up midrange loads using the lee 308 170 fn cast bullet is the best. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and. Above 16501700 fps a patched conical of 300 grains will begin to lose accuracy, pressures likely in the high 30k range, twist 1. Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles. Armys springfield armory for use in the springfield model 1873, which is known to collectors as the trapdoor springfield. As has already been said, properly patched, the lead never touches the barrel, hence no leading. Unless you want to use it on something that will come over and stomp you into a muddy puddle or eat you its totally over the top. Reflecting on 30 years of paper patching for lever guns. These include birchwood casey barricade take alongs 25pk. My marlin will pushe a 4570 at nearly 450 marlin velocities.

If its a paper patch, then youll need to use the smaller bullet, and patch material to. As far as the 308 marlin express round itself, its basically a remake of the 307 winchester. Going forward id be interested in shooting long range rifle matches in addition to wb. Remington express 308 marlin express ammo 150 grain core. Can you paper patch a jacketed bullet and maintain accuracy. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. Hi, i have a yugo 8mm mauser rifle i got at a local sporting goods store called big 5. Lee 170 grain fn cast bullet midrange load in the marlin 3030. Harrison and the staff at the american rifleman worked with paperpatched bullets in the.

For the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. I started patching a 309 cast bullet sized down to 308 and then patching back up to 312. Sell your marlin 308 for free today on gunsamerica. How to make your paper patched boolits 3006 series duration. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet.